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- LSD and Lithium
-
- I posted this article to alt.drugs in May 1994 and received the
- responses that follow. - Mike Brown <mike@hyperreal.com>
-
- > I have a friend who is bipolar and is taking Lithium to control
- > her chemical imbalance. I've been telling her about my postive
- > experiences with LSD and she is interested in trying it.
-
- > I checked the FTP sites and I don't recall seeing this being discussed
- > here before, but I could be wrong.
-
- > Can someone post or email me with any information they have concerning
- > the interaction of LSD with Lithium? Surely there are some bipolar
- > folks on the net who have tripped before. Is it too risky? What are
- > the dangers? What advice can you offer?
-
- ---1st response---
-
- Not advisable. Potentially very dangerous.
-
- If your friend is planning to do this, then she MUST research LSD
- intensively before taking it...and get a good understanding of exactly
- what risks she will be taking.
-
- LSD has been known to 'trigger' latent mental illnesses - it doesn't
- cause them, but it can exacerbate the condition - even if the person
- doesn't yet know that they have any 'condition'. This is probably where
- the myth that "lsd can make you crazy" originally came from.
-
- On the other hand, hallucinogens can cause a profound change in
- outlook...enough to lift a severe depression - I know that this can
- happen because it happened to me when I was around 22 - I'm 27 now. I
- attribute my current mental health, and even my continued existence, to
- a batch of mushrooms I took when I was suicidally depressed - turned my
- head around completely, and within a few weeks I was well on the road
- to recovery. It wasn't an instantaneous, magic cure but it provided
- the impetus that I needed to get started. I would probably have
- topped myself within a few months otherwise - suicide was constantly
- on my mind, and I was evaluating different methods trying to come to a
- decision...no way to be sure, but I expect that I would be dead by now
- if it weren't for that mushroom trip.
-
- So, tell your friend to BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. LSD could teach her
- something, or it could send her into a downward spiral.
-
- ---2nd response---
-
- I'm not sure if there are any known harmful interactions between LSD and
- Lithium. In fact, I don't think anyone is _sure_ why Lithium is effective
- in stopping bipolar cycles.
-
- However, I am SURE that LSD is not something that should be introduced to
- anyone with manic-depressive disorder. My girlfriend is also bipolar, and
- LSD will cause a triggering effect in her that sends her straight into
- mania, almost immediately. All it took was one trip. She
- had gone without an episode for more than 5 years until she decided to dose
- one day. Can you imagine how unpleasant that must feel? Full blown mania
- PLUS an acid trip (which would probably become a bad trip.)
-
- I hate to be one of thos e types that perpetuates these drug horror stories,
- but it's just not a good idea for anyone who has a clinical disorder to take
- mood altering drugs. Clara actually had to drop out of school that semester
- and seek treatment at a hospital she ended up staying at for six weeks.
- Mind you, she was'nt being treated for "Post LSD psychosis" ( a condition
- which is a complete myth in my opinion.) but for the mania which the LSD
- catalyzed.
-
- I've also had positive experiences with LSD, so I have no bias against it.
- But please don't let your friend take it! If you do decide to
- do it, keep a close eye on her! (as if you wouldn't :) )
-
-
-
- ---3rd response---
-
-
- I've never heard of this exact situation before, but it seems like it Might
- be dangerous to me.. Lithium, as I understand it is used to stabilize a
- person's personality, to lop off the manic and the depressive parts , and
- leave the person more level.. but LSD can really send a person reeling in
- either direction quite quickly.. I wouldn't recommend that anyone with
- mental problems severe enough to me medicated in the long term try LSD...
-
-
- ---4th response---
-
- Generally I lurk here in alt.drugs for lack of pertinent info, but here I must
- comment... I was diagnosed manic-depressive in March, and was put on lithium
- soon after. Contrary to popular belief, being manic-depressive is not an "I'm
- so out of control everyday" sort of problem. It comes and it goes, many people
- go years without a significant episode of mania or depression.
-
- I have combined my lithium with LSD and had no problems. The only effect I
- noticed at all with a slight increase in my tolerance of LSD (previously I had
- very little - when friends dropped 2 tabs, I dropped 1, etc.). The LSD didn't
- swing me into a mania or depression.
-
- However, this is my experience. In the drug books I've read, the warning with
- mixing lithium with pot or LSD is "possible psychosis". although no one in any
- manic-depressive support group or online group I've talked to has experienced
- such.
-
- Just a little slice o' my life
-